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According to the christian mythology, one of the Babylonian kings, blinded by his pride, decided to build a tower so tall, that it can reach the heavens. He gathered many workers, and they started building the magnificent tower and thus angered god. God punished them, by creating different languages, and workers started talking in different languages. And without able to communicate - they could not complete the tower...

Yes. I'm using a simple metaphor. We are a strong clan, capable of doing quite a lot, with the strong ally we can now biuld our tower to the heavens. But yet - we speak different languages. And us, who cannot speak polish are a bit left behind. We cannot work in building our Babylon tower.
Many of you are polish and lately things are getting really worse. 99% of the clanchat is in polish, during Baium, during PvP parties - seems noone really cares to try to fill us in - to tell us what's going on. Today I ran on Baium, and what - good thing there was ally chat, to be able to understand something. But when later we organised one PvP party - most of time I was flying around like a free electron, without purpouse, without direction - from time to time there was one "blablabla Oren" - "OK, they are going to Oren". And from these scraps of information I was supposed to play with you?
I stopped shouting on clanchat. I was beginning to wonder do I really excist in the virtual world, am I really connected to the server because noone seemed to notice my "english pls". Clan seems to be international now, I've seen people from Colombia, Lithuania joining, but this cannot be told by the most spoken language on clanchat. From one moment, I got frustrated enough so I left the PvP party and went to farm exp at Varka. At least i was knowing what I'm doing... You cannot expect nonpolish ppl to participate adequatly in events, when they're suffering from communication breakdown...

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+1 AnuTris
And dont start telling some of you dont know/cant speak english... even fluent english speaking peaple dont give a -_- about it. There is only few trying and thats frustating. Yes this was 100% pl clan and im starting to think it had to stay like this... sad but true.

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..i w dupe wziął Wasz plan.

..yeap, it's hard to change people's mentality.

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is hard especially when some ppl have it deep in ass and always talk polish

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s3th · Dołączył: 29 Wrz 2008 Posty: 662 Przeczytał: 0 tematów

When I was in clan i was totaly against invitng english speaking ppl coz of that problems that you have mentioned. Nobody listened to me and those problems appeard and will never disappear Razz

Anu you wont change anything, ever... its imposible to persuate ppl to talk in english if in clan only few ppl that need that. Thats sad but true. You have to used to it or leave or you will get frustrated for eternity Razz

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s3th pls do not talk anything if u'r not in clan. U show the way to Anutris to leave clan. Its not your bussnes. yes?

s3th · Dołączył: 29 Wrz 2008 Posty: 662 Przeczytał: 0 tematów

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as u see, u dont log in, so u dont know whats happen in clan, so pls stfu. I log in everyday. Short playin' time doesnt mean i dont play at all.

I wonder about ppl which reading only forum, dont play at all and tryin to do sth in clan... :FFF apf...

s3th · Dołączył: 29 Wrz 2008 Posty: 662 Przeczytał: 0 tematów

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Yes, I know we, non-polish are minority, and yes I know we cannot make demands, and I'm not saying AR will fade without us. I'm saying, that the constant polish spam makes us outcasts, makes us feel like some gypsies nobody needs, nobody wants, and nobody cares about. And about the emoquitting - I've been close to doing so several times, but it just seems I'm not emo enough.
And I agree partially with s3th about mentality, and I know why you'd prefer 'speaking' in polish, I know it's easier to express yourselves, not everyone is studying/speaking English for the past 15 years like me, but speaking english in clanchat, even for spam is a sign of respect, we, non polish do appreciate. And it makes us feel more part of this clan.

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Yes, we could need some mentality hammer on our heads Wink

i'll try to motivate them..seems like impossible..

s3th · Dołączył: 29 Wrz 2008 Posty: 662 Przeczytał: 0 tematów

"I'm saying, that the constant polish spam makes us outcasts," that was my main argument against changing into international with only couple of english-speaking. It is good that you keep your good attitude and I wish you good luck. Keep that good work.

@ Neres

I remember old times when things were just different. I do not like HB clan system coz of so many ppl so fusion with other clan for me is just unacceptable

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Just relax.
Not communicating in pve/pvp is bad for both polish and english speakers. If you dont understand - dont go anywhere. And you should be missed imo Smile

If you understand (even if ppl talk polish) - great, the act of communication has happened.

A my (AR) będzie nadrzędny w końcu.